As I listen to these talks, I am increasingly and consistently encouraged as I am studying Bonny Method of Guided Imagery and Music. It uses classical music to support healing imagery that can reach into pre- and peri-natal trauma. The music relaxes defenses to some degree, and touches our feeling states, engages the imagination, is somatic, can provide opportunities for completing those blocked movements. I appreciate the up-to-date information and whole collaborative approach you bring. Thanks
Many of my clients are care givers of elderly parents who abused them as children. The abuse continues against the care giver who has one step in the present and one step in the traumatic memories of the past. Usually other family member refuse to give a hand. I encourage them separate themselves by doing respite activities and living their own lives as much as possible. (a simple way to put it!)
Thank you so much for this série on trauma. I am a rural GP in Ireland and this is extremely helpful as we are first line in care because of lack of counselling services
If a baby’s brain couldn’t develop healthily because of mother’s very early trauma in utero, resulting perhaps in an anxious, stressed baby, I imagine that effecting therapeutic change with that adult might only be partial and very long term? If a parent or grown-up baby becomes aware of the baby’s compromised growth, couldn’t that result in further re- traumatisation? Is this knowledge best withheld from a client?
Sorry – this is complicated to express – I’m also thinking of a mother who became pregnant in the week of burying her 6 month old baby through cot death. The new baby’s brain development was compromised, and he died on the day of his birth at 8 months.
I suffered severe (fluctuating) M.E.(CFS / PVFS) for over twenty years as a medical “football” without proper diagnosis. Following medical advice that there was nothing wrong with me, to be precise: “We can’t find anything wrong with you therefore its all in your mind, get a proper job and don’t bother us” – following that advice I trained hard to get fit and drove myself further into the ground.
After eventual self diagnosis and finding a doctor whose trust it took three years to establish I was able to address “M.E.” by appropriate means and methods. Life is better now, with room for improvement.
More recently I have come to suspect that I actually had “M.E.” since my earliest days and today’s infographic “How a Caregiver’s Trauma Can Impact a Child’s Development” confirms that suspicion as factually extremely likely. My birth itself was a protracted trauma over 5 days.
This knowledge brings me great joy and hope for the future…
In the case you cite, the twice bereaved mother must be beset with guilt and self-questioning and the priority should be to exonerate her shame and fully express her grief. That is a truth which far outweighs the hypothetical mechanics of losing two babies in short order.
Healing may take time and may not ever be complete. We are all, without exception, damaged people living in an imperfect world. A large part of healing is to come to terms with that reality.
This was s very helpful. Thankyou. Ruth Lanius gives me the theory to reinforce my felt sense of the need for careful contracting with the client; at the beginning and moment by moment. Even though I work for a free at point of access service I explain our first meeting is for them to decide if I am the right counsellor for them and if we continue moment by moment giving them choice in the direction our work takes. Eliciting inner wisdom- great.
We had some llama’s visit us (!) where I work just for fun- and I can really see how helpful animals could become in our work. Great to hear more work around this.
I loved Dan Siegel’s view of dysfunctional interactions “Yay! An opportunity to do some work” This is so hopeful. Thank you very much.
So generous to make this available free of charge for those of us unable to pay (just yet) Thanks again.
Re: Allan Schore’s comments on elevated stress of mother prior to and during pregnancy and horrendous effects of high cortisol levels on the baby from infancy & for a lifetime. So, how does the mother reconcile her guilt, blame, shame (or combo of all 3) at bringing this on her innocent infant, when external circumstances were beyond the mother’s control (abusive spouse for many years)? This is my situation, as health care practitioner and also mother, whose adult son has been suffering unimaginably from infancy, with attachment issues (I am doing attachment repair at home, using my trauma training as best as I can), also with social engagement, ongoing incidents of workplace harassment by employers (who are predators preying on the vulnerable) etc!!! He is shutting down more than ever, having been forced out of his most recent job at YMCA in Oakville, Ontario, Canada, by the harassment by the Director of Child Care. He has lost the very thing that he coveted in life, his job with kids in an after-school program, where he could help kids who felt left out, to integrate with other kids & this also was helping him to heal from his past childhood traumas. We have Intergenerational Trauma (IGT), so when I see him losing interest in life, I am dealing with my guilt, shame, blame, and also trying to help him stay afloat and find ways to cope and see new opportunities to from the “time off.” We are both significantly affected by this latest round of “raining bullets” (my phrase for our ongoing serious life challenges), as survivors of severe trauma of years in duration. As recommended by Bessel van der Kolk, we did engage in Neurofeedback therapy, which provided some good positive steps forward. However, our trauma triggers still prevail, as new incidents cause them to rise up repeatedly. External resources for trauma therapy are almost inaccessible, very costly etc. Our financial & emotional supports are minimal. I feel that IFS (Internal Family Systems) work by Richard Schwartz would be the critical next step to help us to integrate the fragmented parts of ourselves. However access to a qualified IFS practitioner (who is doing their own healing work) & also affordability are now more major obstacles than before, due to income loss (my son) and I have been on disability benefits for several years, due to trauma triggers from my work in auto insurance. I feel at a loss on how to get help ASAP. as I am now on a downslide myself emotionally, at seeing us both deteriorate daily!! Hope to have others shed some light on our situation from this comment board. How do I access the comment board to check for replies after this rebroadcast is over today??
Hazel, I don’t know what to say, but I so appreciate the righteous points you make about how this work, which I mostly love, can blame victims if we are not aware and caring. I would love to see the adding of a systems context–mothers’ stress affects their babies? Address poverty, interpersonal violence, racism, sexual violence, historical violence, etc., in society in addition to helping individuals heal. Maria Yellow Horse Brave Heart, who was a student of Rachel Yehuda (cited in this talk), does powerful work throughout Indian Country encouraging collective rituals to help people heal from what gets pathologized as individual dysfunction, but is really trauma and grief collectively experienced by ancestors til current. I think she’s on to something.
Hazel, I wish you and your son attuned support and deep healing.
Hazel, One excellent resource that you can access in Canada is the Integrated Listening Systems Safe and Sound Protocol invented by Dr Stephen Porges. You can do the training online for a very nominal amount and rent the device by the month. I have done the the therapy on myself and several adults with very positive results. When I did it, I worked with a somatic experiencing counsellor to help me research the trauma from my early .childhood. Within a few weeks the SSP unpacked the traumatic experiences and once released they were gone forever. When I released the trauma in her safe presence (being held), I was crying out like an infant, a very odd experience for a 58 year old. I had not been able to work as a special needs teacher because the trauma of my students was triggering me. I am now working full time. A psychiatrist monitoring me through this process was astonished at the speed that the SSP worked. She said it would have taken her 2 years to get down to the early trauma to work with it. The combination of SSP and somatic experiencing saved my life.
Pippa, your suggestion sounds very promising. However, my son & I had engaged in SE therapy (separately) with an advanced trained SE colleague, whom I did not know previously, so it could be objective. By session 7, it was clear to me that she was NOT doing her own healing work. The very issues that we went to her to heal, me having issues with males due to lengthy abusive marriage, & my son having attachment issues with me from infancy, were the same ones that she was struggling +++ with, herself!! So we had to end the therapy immediately (as endorsed by Bessel van der Kolk, when I met him at a conference in London, Ontario, Canada in April 2015. Given our financial predicament, I will check into SSP training as an option. However, renting device by month, also finding another safe & trustworthy SE therapist and affording services will be challenging!! I had recntly purchased an MP3 series on 3 stages of Trauma Healing of PTSD, by Belleruth Naparstek, all tracks with guided imagery, and this will have to do for now, in terms of in-home therapy at no further cost!!
I’ve studied Katie O’Shea’s work w/ EMDR and implicit memory, so knew baby’s could be directly effected by mother’s level of anxiety, but now I know the neurobiological reason. Thank you! I learned today that the cortisol, a helpful and important hormone, gets passed through the placenta directly to the baby and can effect the way the baby’s nervous system/brain develops. I will use this information with one of my adolescent clients who has a long history of anxiety and is having a difficult time separating from parents as she nears graduation. I am going to have a conversation with her mother and see what was happening in her life when she was pregnant with my client.
Thanks for these great speakers and for sharing the knowledge!
Very informative information regarding attachment. One particular topic of up and down regulating of emotions I will pay more attention to during sessions with clients.
Thank you so much for sharing these important research and insights.
It has given me a deeper understanding into how we can work with our clients who experience traumas. They are all very helpful; the left and the right brain workings and communications techniques, pregnancy issues, attachments, and particularly the one which is the animal imagery. I do know that animal like live dog or cat can be therapeutic in counselling. However to know an image of an animal can be just as helpful to clients who experience great neglect and attachment issues is wonderful to know and that I will use.
I am a survivor not a practitioner and found today’s session soooooo useful. My mother underwent surgery for an ovarian cyst when she was carrying me back in 1946, then for the rest of the pregnancy was told not to expect me to live. Went through 4 years of sexual abuse starting about age 11. Over the years have worked with the abuse issue a great deal but not with the pre-birth trauma. This session has given me a whole heap of understanding as to why I have never been able to sustain a long term relationship and many times, even with people I have felt safe with, friendships have fallen apart as I felt the need to withdraw for a while but the friends have taken that need as wanting to completely draw away. In the past 5 years I have been evicted from my rental homes 3 times for no good reason and this brought up every issue of abuse and lack of choice I have ever had. Now getting myself back on en even keel and this session has given me a whole heap of understanding as to what has been going on. Thank you.
Over the years I have become used to picking myself up, brushing myself down and starting all over again; so have become stronger every time I hit a rocky patch and started to see them as opportunities rather than drawbacks. The first eviction caused absolute panic initially but then I fell back on the soul confidence I have gained over the years and eventually looked at it as an opportunity to explore something different. The second time then became much easier and the third time almost a walk in the park. One thing I’ve learned over the years is that energy is neutral and we are the ones who put the emotional charge in place and define things as negative or positive based on our past experiences. 10 years ago gave up my home and went travelling for 2 years with 2 suitcases to explore whether it was possible to feel at home wherever I was in the world with no geographic ties. Eventually saw these evictions as an extension of that exploration. Interestingly having reached a feeling of being in a safe place within my current home (almost 2years now) the issue which raised its head for me was not being able to get out of bed in the mornings and face the world. Realised this related back to the unsafe space in the womb and am currently seeing a homeopath who gave me the remedy Placenta last week which brought about instant change. Can now face and embrace the world each morning and feel safer than I have felt in a very long time.
Thank you for mentioning this remedy. I am recovering from psychological abuse which I believe I allowed as a result of a life-long feeling of being a burden to others. (My mother “just wanted to die” when pregnant with me). As part of my recovery, I use homeopathy & the LIFE bio-feedback technology for “state regulation”. I have used the remedies Causticum to address feelings of rage & injustice & Staphysagria for tooth & gum sensitivity due to elevated salivary cortisol. (I met a woman who lost all her teeth due to psychological abuse). I work extensively with the emotional transformation program in the LIFE biofeedback system. I always check to see if any “miasms” have been activated as that program addresses epigenetic factors & transgenerational trauma. As an empath, highly sensitive person and INFP (Myers-Briggs), I find “main stream” practices are more suitable for Sensors than Intuitives. In addition to the cognitive, affective & somatic processes for trauma recovery mentioned in this series, (several of which I also use), “quantum” healing modalities are available. Prior to matter emerging in particulate form (atoms, molecules), it exists as vibrational, (light & sound), frequencies. Quantum healing practices ultimately work by creating coherent frequency patterns which bring about homeostasis through entrainment. A promising body of work which I have benefitted from, is sound therapy with tuning forks, tibetan & crystal bowls & voice. For anyone curious about quantum healing, you may wish to look at Jean Houston’s work. She has studied healing practices from over 100 countries & explains the validity of such practices using quantum theory.
You mentioned sound therapy which is something I’ve used in various forms over many years. In fact most of what I’ve used to become a survivor falls into the category of vibrational therapy. Alongside the recent homeopathic remedies, the other main one being Sulfur, which is my constitutional remedy, I have been using Biofield Tuning (tuning fork therapy) by Eileen McKusick who works on the basis that the whole human biofield is of an electrical nature. She offers distant group sessions via internet on various aspects of the human biofield. So far I have accessed one on Pain and The Spine and have found them extremely therapeutic.
Danielle Williamssays
I am a trainee integrative counsellor and psychotherapist in London and I am so grateful for this resource. First of all it is great to see neurobiology lending support to theories in psychotherapy, and as a student to access this for free is outstanding. I have always had a felt sense that talking on its own is insufficient in supporting those affected by trauma and I am happy that this webinar provided the research as well as helpful tips on how to combat the barriers caused by talking. I am familiar with Bessel van der Kolk but now can’t wait to find out more about Pat Ogden and sensorimotor psychotherapy. I look forward to the next sessions. Warmest wishes, Danielle
Hello:
Highlights:
The right brain is there, listen to it. what happens when the cliente is embedded in this overwhelming affect and connect with it, by no verbal language. many ideas. thanks from Bilbao, Spain.
If you want to work out subtitles you have me here.
Thanks and cheers.
Joaquin
Dear Ruth and Team,
I am a licensed psychologist and psychotherapist in Cologne, Germany. I am also certificated as a Somatic Experiencing Practioner, and this body/nervous-system integrating method helped enormously to make my work more effective.
I am deeply impressed of what you created with this Master Series on Trauma! Even if I already studied a lot on trauma, your input really deepens my intuitive “wisdom”, makes me remember certain facts and strengthens my ability to actually applicate and integrate the knowledge in my actual work with clients. I find the didactic of your webinars (so far) great! The reminding emails, summaries of Ruth during the sessions, the structure, the graphics- it is really a pleasure to watch (I loved the left brain- right brain- split of Ruth!:-), easy to memorize and even for a non-native speaker easy to follow. The cherry on the cake is of course to see all my “teachers” of whom I read so much talking about the issue. Thank you very much for making the knowledge accessible and to contribute with your mission to a more healthy society!! Anna-Maria Thiemann (www.annamariathiemann.de) PS: What I will use from todays session on attachment is to remember that kindness can be a trigger for a traumatic circuit and to remember, to help the client create safety by means like finding safety in the body, offering control/choice etc.
I will be certainly more clear or rather aware about the process of interconnectedness and it makes me more curious to watch what is happening during the talks and interventions with clients. It also brings me back to myself and I‘ll take more time, to use my inspirations and feelings during the therapies. I new before, but now I having more background for this. Thanks a lot for your precious work.
I appreciate these dedicated teachers and all the insights. It is helping me to pose many questions and to more fully appreciate multi-generational concerns of caregivers and friends and family who are struggling with Alzheimer’s and end-of-life opportunities for healing.
3 key ideas that I may be able to apply :
1. I really appreciate the session by O’Hanlon – explore the strength and resources.
2, the use of animal to experience attachment – i have a young adult client who has been bullied in most of his teenage years. has been experiencing anxiety and fear in crowd.
3. for the same client, I have been using Cbt, trying to show him that thoughts are not facts. but I will try to switch to “right brain” to explore his emotion, The part of integration of left and right brain makes a lot sense.
My heartfelt gratitude to all the speakers for the very informative and enlightening sharing , and to Dr Ruth Buczynski and NICABM for organising this.
I will be sensitive to the fact that even kindness can be a trigger for a traumatic experience. I like the technique of asking the patient what they would like to focus on in session in order to limit overexposure and bring in the frontal lobes into play.
I am so very grateful for adding a second day option and more times in which to watch the video in the midst of a busy schedule.. The practical suggestions are so helpful
I third this!
I only was bummed that when I saw the original list of times they were all during the day on the west coast and most folks I knew were working, so I didn’t share it. By the time more were added, I sent it around, but it was so short notice.
I really appreciate the full range of time options over the 2 days–even though I was working full days (not standard hours), I was able to watch.
Thank you.
P.S. Also loved the dry right-brain/left-brain Ruth shtick!
another one please. so it was said that there are brain areas that don t come online b/c of trauma? does this relate to anhedonia? in adulthood, thanks.
That was excellent! Uploading positive feelings will be something I work on more with clients.
Starting with attention on the body here and now and what the person notices and using that to identify the different parts and to help the parts integrate was also helpful!
Giving people choices as Pat said is something that I’ll remember.
I appreciated being reminded of the importance of playing up the positives, no matter how insignificant they may appear, in order to up-regulate the positive emotions.
mostly interested in what happens to the developing fetus if the mother experienced serious trauma while pregnant. my therapist and i haven’t been able to figure out why my mother was total cluster b since everyone else in the family was ok. my father died before i was born, so. this material will be good to mention with the therapist, maybe.
Greetings to you all. My appreciation for your -more than helpful- information is beyond words. This information will no doubt help our society far more than you can imagine. Like many others who wanted to hear this, due to my schedule I wasn’t able to listen to the programs in their entirety. Will you have a link for those of us who want to listen? If so, this will not only help mentor those new comers in the field, but it will be easier for those who are deciding whether to sign up as members realize the value of this type of membership. Personally, I’d like to thank Bessel for his “Body Keeps The Score” book. I’m currently reading it for the second time. Great job dear man.. It’s a timely read to say the least and long, long overdue. Sad to say it was not surprising to me to see the test results and the connection to the various traumas. Especially those that started in early childhood… Memo: People be kind and love your children!
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Treating Trauma Master’s Series is truly amazing! I appreciate the opportunity to partake in this experience with experts who are willing to share their knowledge and skills with individuals who are not able to pay, at the present time. I recently graduated from a Counseling/Clinical Mental Health Master’s degree program and have my Limited License in the State of Michigan. I am gleaning as much information that I can from each session and realize it is exactly what I need to more forward in the counseling profession. Thank you for connecting with me, and allowing me the privilege of being included in this wonderful experience.
Thank you for sharing this information…I too am interested in an intermediate subscription…with just the reading material…I missed most of today’s session…is there a link for a replay?
I also would like to add that listening to the body and giving it permission to move how it would like to during quiet moments can start an unwinding that is tremendously calming and healing.
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I am going to take my therapy dog to many more of my sessions with clients and I am going to add address the amount of stress or trauma the mothers of my clients experienced during pregnancy. This may give me a clue to why a client is having trouble with emotional regulation, especially ones that have not experienced any major trauma after their birth. Thanks.
Like Elaine Dolan, I also wanted to ask about the comment re: when a traumatized person may evoke a negative response from another person, it was stated that the other may be the “wrong person” (Law of Attraction). But even if the other person may be OK, something that the traumatized person says or does evokes a negative response.
So, how does the traumatized person know which one it is (wrong person or OK person)?
Also how does the traumatized person avoid feeling a sense of guilt,shame, blame (or a combo of all 3) in either scenario, if they are aware of this concept? What ways can they use to cope on a practical level, in attempts to socially engage with others? Otherwise, as stated, this becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. I know this from personal experience for myself & my son!!
good question, i would like to know too. my most recent supposition is, well, pheromones. and if your biochemistry is messed up, your pheromones probably are too. any research on that?
Hazel,
You might want to look up the Greyson Stein experiments from the 1980’s on victim selection. Everyone seems to have it backwards – it’s the perpetrator who can spot victims, not the victim who spots (or is attracted to) the abuser.
Greyson/Stein made a recording of people walking on a busy street corner, played it for convicted violent criminals in a federal penitentiary, and asked them to point out who would be the likeliest targets. They were surprised at the consistency and speed of selection. Dr. Angela Book also studied this: in her experiment subjects who were higher on a test of psychopathy traits were much better at spotting subjects who had previously been victimized.
Good questions. Grey/Stein findings validate experiences. Difficulty remains for the “victim” to discern what constitutes safety, especially after a predator targets them and re-traumatizes them. Can make individuals even more vigilant and likely to withdraw/isolate from different types of social contact, and/or rigidify boundaries, perhaps even indefinitely and even to feel as if they are some form of a “magnet.” Looking forward to the next broadcast with the continued focus on tools. The added pieces on brain integration and clinical findings re mbsr results are useful.
I have a client, age 7, who has almost completely dissociated from reality. I am conseling in a school setting and have no contact with the parents. I was intrigued by the animal attachment/visualisation intervention mentioned in this week’s talk, but I am concerned about applying it to this client because he has given me mixed signals about his feelings toward animals. First he claims to love the family dog dearly, then said he had tried to strangle her at least once. Frankly, I am not even sure if he has a dog. Would you use an animal-based intervention with a client like this? thanks so much for your help!
How about trying a stuffed animal? Definately recommend screening before pairing client & animals as not all pairings will be appropriate…must be mindful of safety and stress on animal, too.
Very good point around kindness potentially being triggering. Also maybe letting people “overshare” and expose themselves too much. I’m left with a few questions though…
Like what would be the alternative to being too kind 🙂 I guess offering clients as much choice as possible and creating safety in other ways? Slowing down people who are oversharing?
Also it would have been nice to hear a bit more orientation around solutions for working with clients who were exposed to high cortisol in the womb and may have brain differences because of this.
Thanks you all! The way I’m using these ideas is right in the theoretical chapter of my dissertation. I’ma working with so called Otomí shamans, “those who cure” in their native language, describing the complexity of the life of those who carry a gift. The transgenerational exploration of their families has shown a lot of trauma, the understanding of which has been capital for my comprehension of the cultural decisions of coping with violence and transgretion. For the moment, the text will serve as an initial interface to dialog in the community, where the fate of women keeps being very dificult. God bless you!
I am watching this to learn how to help my 13 yo son regulate his emotions (he was born overseas, abandoned, lived in an orphanage for 2 years) and for me to better regulate mine in the face of his rage/remorse/rage/remorse cycles. Boom! I tuned in maybe 20 mins into the webinar and felt that you were talking directly to me about him. I ave learned so much and also been reminded of so much. My takeaways are:
I have sometimes decided to ignore him when he’s raging. I will no longer ignore him as this reinforces his belief that I’m not thee when things are challenging. I will kindly explain how I feel and say I’m taking a break but I’m open to talking or getting on whenever he is.
I will not get angry and rage back, as I have sometimes recently when things have escalated which reinforces the belief ” no one can cope with me, I don’t need you, I can cope on my own”.
I am the Rock, the attachment figure that he can rail against.
Unfortunately our cats, who we got so that he could have loving attached pets, do not go to him because of his energy and loudness. It’s another reinforcement that he’s not loveable and I will reconsider getting him a dog.
My take away from this week’s session:
1. Kindness and being nice can be a trigger for the client. I am much more aware of this factor and will take this into consider when working with my students. In the past I have noticed a hesitation from students when I have approached them in this manner and now realize that it may have been a trigger.
2. Empowering the client by giving them choices is a way to create a secure attachment. I will continue to utilize this approach. Today’s lesson helped me to appreciate this technique and how it strengthens an individual sense of self-knowledge.
My biggest take away is the importance of the client/therapist relationship. It makes me think more carefully about how to monitor my part in it’s development. From today’s seminar, for example, how a smiling face can replicate the initial abuser, allowing the client to choose where they sit and being aware of the client’s over divulging and feeling too vulnerable afterward.
This training is absolutely phenomenal! I have worked in the mental health field slightly over 12 years. I am very passionate about working with traumatized individuals. I plan to implement protocol to gather more detailed information about a client’s past. This will better help me to understand attachment that he or she has experienced, which will lead to a more tailored treatment of the traumatized child that still resides in the core of the individual. Lastly, I will share this information with supervisees to help them better succeed in treatment when delivering services to this population.
Good news, you can watch again. We’ll be replaying this same session – Session Two – today, Thursday, October 18th, at 10am, 12pm, 3pm, and 10pm Eastern Time (USA).
Loving the information . I have read Dr kolks book . Wonderful ! I am not a provider. I work in health care. Seeing a therapist for trauma and memory block -most of my life . Seeing a therapist and going thrrough EDMR and I find it (as a health care person ) amazing. It has helped me tremendously . Unlocking memory . Traumatic memory . Painful memory . I have been given the books on trauma and sites to view and read to understand what is going on in my head clinically . And it has helped . Thank you for doing this series .
Pat Ogden’s practical approaches are so impressive. We have a Traumatic Psychosis Community of Practce that is forcossuing on Attachment Disorders this year. Her body work for the separate parts of self are so useful for working with our traumatic psychosis patients. We are currently applying for an internal grant to help build capacity with our clinicians. We are planning on signing up for a Gold subscription, but it would be amazing if Pat Ogden would be willing to join us as an expert for one of our meetings, if we can get funding for this through an internal grant. I have had the pleasure of working with Ruth Lanius as well, and it would be lovely to have her for an expert’s session as well. I apologize for the typos, but this web page wouldn’t allow me to correct in the first line for some reason.
Thank you so much for offering this series free of charge. As a retired massage therapist shifting into a counseling practice, this is very exciting information. Listening is helping me to discern where in the counseling field I will fit in. It will be some kind of somatic therapy with a mindfulness component.
Pamela, Psychotherapy, CA says
As I listen to these talks, I am increasingly and consistently encouraged as I am studying Bonny Method of Guided Imagery and Music. It uses classical music to support healing imagery that can reach into pre- and peri-natal trauma. The music relaxes defenses to some degree, and touches our feeling states, engages the imagination, is somatic, can provide opportunities for completing those blocked movements. I appreciate the up-to-date information and whole collaborative approach you bring. Thanks
Dina Mann says
Many of my clients are care givers of elderly parents who abused them as children. The abuse continues against the care giver who has one step in the present and one step in the traumatic memories of the past. Usually other family member refuse to give a hand. I encourage them separate themselves by doing respite activities and living their own lives as much as possible. (a simple way to put it!)
gabrielle israelievitch says
I have a question. Could your panel please comment on circumstances in which EMPATHY is a trigger and what to do about that? Thank you.
Peter Ryan says
Thank you Ruth & others for a very informative, engaging and encouraging event.
Sophie Faherty says
Thank you so much for this série on trauma. I am a rural GP in Ireland and this is extremely helpful as we are first line in care because of lack of counselling services
Delyth Wilkinson says
If a baby’s brain couldn’t develop healthily because of mother’s very early trauma in utero, resulting perhaps in an anxious, stressed baby, I imagine that effecting therapeutic change with that adult might only be partial and very long term? If a parent or grown-up baby becomes aware of the baby’s compromised growth, couldn’t that result in further re- traumatisation? Is this knowledge best withheld from a client?
Sorry – this is complicated to express – I’m also thinking of a mother who became pregnant in the week of burying her 6 month old baby through cot death. The new baby’s brain development was compromised, and he died on the day of his birth at 8 months.
NAGA CHOEGYAL says
I suffered severe (fluctuating) M.E.(CFS / PVFS) for over twenty years as a medical “football” without proper diagnosis. Following medical advice that there was nothing wrong with me, to be precise: “We can’t find anything wrong with you therefore its all in your mind, get a proper job and don’t bother us” – following that advice I trained hard to get fit and drove myself further into the ground.
After eventual self diagnosis and finding a doctor whose trust it took three years to establish I was able to address “M.E.” by appropriate means and methods. Life is better now, with room for improvement.
More recently I have come to suspect that I actually had “M.E.” since my earliest days and today’s infographic “How a Caregiver’s Trauma Can Impact a Child’s Development” confirms that suspicion as factually extremely likely. My birth itself was a protracted trauma over 5 days.
This knowledge brings me great joy and hope for the future…
In the case you cite, the twice bereaved mother must be beset with guilt and self-questioning and the priority should be to exonerate her shame and fully express her grief. That is a truth which far outweighs the hypothetical mechanics of losing two babies in short order.
Healing may take time and may not ever be complete. We are all, without exception, damaged people living in an imperfect world. A large part of healing is to come to terms with that reality.
Sheena Mackenze says
This was s very helpful. Thankyou. Ruth Lanius gives me the theory to reinforce my felt sense of the need for careful contracting with the client; at the beginning and moment by moment. Even though I work for a free at point of access service I explain our first meeting is for them to decide if I am the right counsellor for them and if we continue moment by moment giving them choice in the direction our work takes. Eliciting inner wisdom- great.
We had some llama’s visit us (!) where I work just for fun- and I can really see how helpful animals could become in our work. Great to hear more work around this.
I loved Dan Siegel’s view of dysfunctional interactions “Yay! An opportunity to do some work” This is so hopeful. Thank you very much.
So generous to make this available free of charge for those of us unable to pay (just yet) Thanks again.
Paula Caines says
Awesome Presentation!!
lulu says
Bravo Ruth!
more to blame on our parents…..
…..and ancestors!
ha!
epigenetically speaking
delicately crafting every profile
initially establishing parameters of feeling safe + not feeling safe
observing physical clues; gestures, characteristics of defense, supporting the positive capabilities
so very informative
so very effective
thanks!
Hazel Da Silva says
Re: Allan Schore’s comments on elevated stress of mother prior to and during pregnancy and horrendous effects of high cortisol levels on the baby from infancy & for a lifetime. So, how does the mother reconcile her guilt, blame, shame (or combo of all 3) at bringing this on her innocent infant, when external circumstances were beyond the mother’s control (abusive spouse for many years)? This is my situation, as health care practitioner and also mother, whose adult son has been suffering unimaginably from infancy, with attachment issues (I am doing attachment repair at home, using my trauma training as best as I can), also with social engagement, ongoing incidents of workplace harassment by employers (who are predators preying on the vulnerable) etc!!! He is shutting down more than ever, having been forced out of his most recent job at YMCA in Oakville, Ontario, Canada, by the harassment by the Director of Child Care. He has lost the very thing that he coveted in life, his job with kids in an after-school program, where he could help kids who felt left out, to integrate with other kids & this also was helping him to heal from his past childhood traumas. We have Intergenerational Trauma (IGT), so when I see him losing interest in life, I am dealing with my guilt, shame, blame, and also trying to help him stay afloat and find ways to cope and see new opportunities to from the “time off.” We are both significantly affected by this latest round of “raining bullets” (my phrase for our ongoing serious life challenges), as survivors of severe trauma of years in duration. As recommended by Bessel van der Kolk, we did engage in Neurofeedback therapy, which provided some good positive steps forward. However, our trauma triggers still prevail, as new incidents cause them to rise up repeatedly. External resources for trauma therapy are almost inaccessible, very costly etc. Our financial & emotional supports are minimal. I feel that IFS (Internal Family Systems) work by Richard Schwartz would be the critical next step to help us to integrate the fragmented parts of ourselves. However access to a qualified IFS practitioner (who is doing their own healing work) & also affordability are now more major obstacles than before, due to income loss (my son) and I have been on disability benefits for several years, due to trauma triggers from my work in auto insurance. I feel at a loss on how to get help ASAP. as I am now on a downslide myself emotionally, at seeing us both deteriorate daily!! Hope to have others shed some light on our situation from this comment board. How do I access the comment board to check for replies after this rebroadcast is over today??
Grace Silvia says
Hazel, I don’t know what to say, but I so appreciate the righteous points you make about how this work, which I mostly love, can blame victims if we are not aware and caring. I would love to see the adding of a systems context–mothers’ stress affects their babies? Address poverty, interpersonal violence, racism, sexual violence, historical violence, etc., in society in addition to helping individuals heal. Maria Yellow Horse Brave Heart, who was a student of Rachel Yehuda (cited in this talk), does powerful work throughout Indian Country encouraging collective rituals to help people heal from what gets pathologized as individual dysfunction, but is really trauma and grief collectively experienced by ancestors til current. I think she’s on to something.
Hazel, I wish you and your son attuned support and deep healing.
Pippa says
Hazel, One excellent resource that you can access in Canada is the Integrated Listening Systems Safe and Sound Protocol invented by Dr Stephen Porges. You can do the training online for a very nominal amount and rent the device by the month. I have done the the therapy on myself and several adults with very positive results. When I did it, I worked with a somatic experiencing counsellor to help me research the trauma from my early .childhood. Within a few weeks the SSP unpacked the traumatic experiences and once released they were gone forever. When I released the trauma in her safe presence (being held), I was crying out like an infant, a very odd experience for a 58 year old. I had not been able to work as a special needs teacher because the trauma of my students was triggering me. I am now working full time. A psychiatrist monitoring me through this process was astonished at the speed that the SSP worked. She said it would have taken her 2 years to get down to the early trauma to work with it. The combination of SSP and somatic experiencing saved my life.
Hazel Da Silva says
Pippa, your suggestion sounds very promising. However, my son & I had engaged in SE therapy (separately) with an advanced trained SE colleague, whom I did not know previously, so it could be objective. By session 7, it was clear to me that she was NOT doing her own healing work. The very issues that we went to her to heal, me having issues with males due to lengthy abusive marriage, & my son having attachment issues with me from infancy, were the same ones that she was struggling +++ with, herself!! So we had to end the therapy immediately (as endorsed by Bessel van der Kolk, when I met him at a conference in London, Ontario, Canada in April 2015. Given our financial predicament, I will check into SSP training as an option. However, renting device by month, also finding another safe & trustworthy SE therapist and affording services will be challenging!! I had recntly purchased an MP3 series on 3 stages of Trauma Healing of PTSD, by Belleruth Naparstek, all tracks with guided imagery, and this will have to do for now, in terms of in-home therapy at no further cost!!
Vanessa says
I’ve studied Katie O’Shea’s work w/ EMDR and implicit memory, so knew baby’s could be directly effected by mother’s level of anxiety, but now I know the neurobiological reason. Thank you! I learned today that the cortisol, a helpful and important hormone, gets passed through the placenta directly to the baby and can effect the way the baby’s nervous system/brain develops. I will use this information with one of my adolescent clients who has a long history of anxiety and is having a difficult time separating from parents as she nears graduation. I am going to have a conversation with her mother and see what was happening in her life when she was pregnant with my client.
Thanks for these great speakers and for sharing the knowledge!
Gayla says
Very informative information regarding attachment. One particular topic of up and down regulating of emotions I will pay more attention to during sessions with clients.
Gayle Sturmer, LCSW-R says
Terrific! Compliments my work and training!
Gidget Wong says
Thank you so much for sharing these important research and insights.
It has given me a deeper understanding into how we can work with our clients who experience traumas. They are all very helpful; the left and the right brain workings and communications techniques, pregnancy issues, attachments, and particularly the one which is the animal imagery. I do know that animal like live dog or cat can be therapeutic in counselling. However to know an image of an animal can be just as helpful to clients who experience great neglect and attachment issues is wonderful to know and that I will use.
Annie Goodwin says
I am a survivor not a practitioner and found today’s session soooooo useful. My mother underwent surgery for an ovarian cyst when she was carrying me back in 1946, then for the rest of the pregnancy was told not to expect me to live. Went through 4 years of sexual abuse starting about age 11. Over the years have worked with the abuse issue a great deal but not with the pre-birth trauma. This session has given me a whole heap of understanding as to why I have never been able to sustain a long term relationship and many times, even with people I have felt safe with, friendships have fallen apart as I felt the need to withdraw for a while but the friends have taken that need as wanting to completely draw away. In the past 5 years I have been evicted from my rental homes 3 times for no good reason and this brought up every issue of abuse and lack of choice I have ever had. Now getting myself back on en even keel and this session has given me a whole heap of understanding as to what has been going on. Thank you.
B. says
Yes, the session shed more light. It’s valuable work. What’s helped you “get back on an even keel,” or is this info the beginning of that?
Annie Goodwin says
Over the years I have become used to picking myself up, brushing myself down and starting all over again; so have become stronger every time I hit a rocky patch and started to see them as opportunities rather than drawbacks. The first eviction caused absolute panic initially but then I fell back on the soul confidence I have gained over the years and eventually looked at it as an opportunity to explore something different. The second time then became much easier and the third time almost a walk in the park. One thing I’ve learned over the years is that energy is neutral and we are the ones who put the emotional charge in place and define things as negative or positive based on our past experiences. 10 years ago gave up my home and went travelling for 2 years with 2 suitcases to explore whether it was possible to feel at home wherever I was in the world with no geographic ties. Eventually saw these evictions as an extension of that exploration. Interestingly having reached a feeling of being in a safe place within my current home (almost 2years now) the issue which raised its head for me was not being able to get out of bed in the mornings and face the world. Realised this related back to the unsafe space in the womb and am currently seeing a homeopath who gave me the remedy Placenta last week which brought about instant change. Can now face and embrace the world each morning and feel safer than I have felt in a very long time.
lorelee says
Thank you for mentioning this remedy. I am recovering from psychological abuse which I believe I allowed as a result of a life-long feeling of being a burden to others. (My mother “just wanted to die” when pregnant with me). As part of my recovery, I use homeopathy & the LIFE bio-feedback technology for “state regulation”. I have used the remedies Causticum to address feelings of rage & injustice & Staphysagria for tooth & gum sensitivity due to elevated salivary cortisol. (I met a woman who lost all her teeth due to psychological abuse). I work extensively with the emotional transformation program in the LIFE biofeedback system. I always check to see if any “miasms” have been activated as that program addresses epigenetic factors & transgenerational trauma. As an empath, highly sensitive person and INFP (Myers-Briggs), I find “main stream” practices are more suitable for Sensors than Intuitives. In addition to the cognitive, affective & somatic processes for trauma recovery mentioned in this series, (several of which I also use), “quantum” healing modalities are available. Prior to matter emerging in particulate form (atoms, molecules), it exists as vibrational, (light & sound), frequencies. Quantum healing practices ultimately work by creating coherent frequency patterns which bring about homeostasis through entrainment. A promising body of work which I have benefitted from, is sound therapy with tuning forks, tibetan & crystal bowls & voice. For anyone curious about quantum healing, you may wish to look at Jean Houston’s work. She has studied healing practices from over 100 countries & explains the validity of such practices using quantum theory.
Annie Goodwin says
You mentioned sound therapy which is something I’ve used in various forms over many years. In fact most of what I’ve used to become a survivor falls into the category of vibrational therapy. Alongside the recent homeopathic remedies, the other main one being Sulfur, which is my constitutional remedy, I have been using Biofield Tuning (tuning fork therapy) by Eileen McKusick who works on the basis that the whole human biofield is of an electrical nature. She offers distant group sessions via internet on various aspects of the human biofield. So far I have accessed one on Pain and The Spine and have found them extremely therapeutic.
Danielle Williams says
I am a trainee integrative counsellor and psychotherapist in London and I am so grateful for this resource. First of all it is great to see neurobiology lending support to theories in psychotherapy, and as a student to access this for free is outstanding. I have always had a felt sense that talking on its own is insufficient in supporting those affected by trauma and I am happy that this webinar provided the research as well as helpful tips on how to combat the barriers caused by talking. I am familiar with Bessel van der Kolk but now can’t wait to find out more about Pat Ogden and sensorimotor psychotherapy. I look forward to the next sessions. Warmest wishes, Danielle
Joaquín P. says
Hello:
Highlights:
The right brain is there, listen to it. what happens when the cliente is embedded in this overwhelming affect and connect with it, by no verbal language. many ideas. thanks from Bilbao, Spain.
If you want to work out subtitles you have me here.
Thanks and cheers.
Joaquin
Srishti Nigam says
Fantastic Presentation.
Kudos to you Ruth.
Anna-Maria Thiemann says
Dear Ruth and Team,
I am a licensed psychologist and psychotherapist in Cologne, Germany. I am also certificated as a Somatic Experiencing Practioner, and this body/nervous-system integrating method helped enormously to make my work more effective.
I am deeply impressed of what you created with this Master Series on Trauma! Even if I already studied a lot on trauma, your input really deepens my intuitive “wisdom”, makes me remember certain facts and strengthens my ability to actually applicate and integrate the knowledge in my actual work with clients. I find the didactic of your webinars (so far) great! The reminding emails, summaries of Ruth during the sessions, the structure, the graphics- it is really a pleasure to watch (I loved the left brain- right brain- split of Ruth!:-), easy to memorize and even for a non-native speaker easy to follow. The cherry on the cake is of course to see all my “teachers” of whom I read so much talking about the issue. Thank you very much for making the knowledge accessible and to contribute with your mission to a more healthy society!! Anna-Maria Thiemann (www.annamariathiemann.de) PS: What I will use from todays session on attachment is to remember that kindness can be a trigger for a traumatic circuit and to remember, to help the client create safety by means like finding safety in the body, offering control/choice etc.
Angelika says
I will be certainly more clear or rather aware about the process of interconnectedness and it makes me more curious to watch what is happening during the talks and interventions with clients. It also brings me back to myself and I‘ll take more time, to use my inspirations and feelings during the therapies. I new before, but now I having more background for this. Thanks a lot for your precious work.
Bobbe Nunes says
I appreciate these dedicated teachers and all the insights. It is helping me to pose many questions and to more fully appreciate multi-generational concerns of caregivers and friends and family who are struggling with Alzheimer’s and end-of-life opportunities for healing.
KC Chiang says
3 key ideas that I may be able to apply :
1. I really appreciate the session by O’Hanlon – explore the strength and resources.
2, the use of animal to experience attachment – i have a young adult client who has been bullied in most of his teenage years. has been experiencing anxiety and fear in crowd.
3. for the same client, I have been using Cbt, trying to show him that thoughts are not facts. but I will try to switch to “right brain” to explore his emotion, The part of integration of left and right brain makes a lot sense.
My heartfelt gratitude to all the speakers for the very informative and enlightening sharing , and to Dr Ruth Buczynski and NICABM for organising this.
Bobbi Rood says
I will work with strengths and look at what what is working, along with the problem story. I will de-center the problem.
Tara says
I will be sensitive to the fact that even kindness can be a trigger for a traumatic experience. I like the technique of asking the patient what they would like to focus on in session in order to limit overexposure and bring in the frontal lobes into play.
Elaine says
I am so very grateful for adding a second day option and more times in which to watch the video in the midst of a busy schedule.. The practical suggestions are so helpful
Vanessa Vaughter, LCSW, MDIV says
Ditto! Both sessions I have had to access the webcast ‘the morning after’ and I SO appreciate it!
Grace Silvia says
I third this!
I only was bummed that when I saw the original list of times they were all during the day on the west coast and most folks I knew were working, so I didn’t share it. By the time more were added, I sent it around, but it was so short notice.
I really appreciate the full range of time options over the 2 days–even though I was working full days (not standard hours), I was able to watch.
Thank you.
P.S. Also loved the dry right-brain/left-brain Ruth shtick!
Judy says
I really appreciated how Ruth commented after each section. It helped me cement the previous speakers remarks.
e cheshier says
another one please. so it was said that there are brain areas that don t come online b/c of trauma? does this relate to anhedonia? in adulthood, thanks.
B. says
Looking forward to hearing more about strategies in adult life to support change.
Theresa says
That was excellent! Uploading positive feelings will be something I work on more with clients.
Starting with attention on the body here and now and what the person notices and using that to identify the different parts and to help the parts integrate was also helpful!
Giving people choices as Pat said is something that I’ll remember.
Steph says
I appreciated being reminded of the importance of playing up the positives, no matter how insignificant they may appear, in order to up-regulate the positive emotions.
e cheshier says
mostly interested in what happens to the developing fetus if the mother experienced serious trauma while pregnant. my therapist and i haven’t been able to figure out why my mother was total cluster b since everyone else in the family was ok. my father died before i was born, so. this material will be good to mention with the therapist, maybe.
Kathleen says
Greetings to you all. My appreciation for your -more than helpful- information is beyond words. This information will no doubt help our society far more than you can imagine. Like many others who wanted to hear this, due to my schedule I wasn’t able to listen to the programs in their entirety. Will you have a link for those of us who want to listen? If so, this will not only help mentor those new comers in the field, but it will be easier for those who are deciding whether to sign up as members realize the value of this type of membership. Personally, I’d like to thank Bessel for his “Body Keeps The Score” book. I’m currently reading it for the second time. Great job dear man.. It’s a timely read to say the least and long, long overdue. Sad to say it was not surprising to me to see the test results and the connection to the various traumas. Especially those that started in early childhood… Memo: People be kind and love your children!
Michelle says
Hi Kathleen-
We have some rebroadcast times today if you’re interested in watching Session Two again.
So we’ll be replaying this same session – Session Two – on Thursday, October 18th at 10am, 12pm, 3pm, and 10pm Eastern Time (USA).
I hope you can tune in at one of those times!
Best,
Michelle
NICABM Staff
Melissa says
I’m not able to open up this video! Please advise,
Michelle says
Hi Melissa,
I’m sorry you had trouble with opening the video.
We have some rebroadcast times today, if you’d like to catch Session Two again: Thursday, October 18th at 10am, 12pm, 3pm, and 10pm Eastern Time (USA).
If you encounter problems with the video again, please call our Customer Care department at 860-456-1153.
Best,
Michelle
NICABM Staff
Marilyn Taylor says
Treating Trauma Master’s Series is truly amazing! I appreciate the opportunity to partake in this experience with experts who are willing to share their knowledge and skills with individuals who are not able to pay, at the present time. I recently graduated from a Counseling/Clinical Mental Health Master’s degree program and have my Limited License in the State of Michigan. I am gleaning as much information that I can from each session and realize it is exactly what I need to more forward in the counseling profession. Thank you for connecting with me, and allowing me the privilege of being included in this wonderful experience.
Audrey-May says
Thank you for sharing this information…I too am interested in an intermediate subscription…with just the reading material…I missed most of today’s session…is there a link for a replay?
I also would like to add that listening to the body and giving it permission to move how it would like to during quiet moments can start an unwinding that is tremendously calming and healing.
Zoe Rochelle says
Hello Audrey-May,
We’ll be replaying this same session – Session Two – today, Thursday, October 18th, at 10am, 12pm, 3pm, and 10pm Eastern Time (USA).
If you wanted the flexibility to watch the series at your complete leisure, go back and revisit previously aired sessions, or read through the professional transcripts, that would require you sign up for a Gold Subscription.
And if you have other questions about the Gold Subscription or the free replays, please feel welcome to reach out!
Best,
Michelle
NICABM Staff
Grace Silvia says
I second Audrey-May’s idea: could there be Bronze and Silver level subscriptions? Maybe one just all the videos, and the other all the writtens?
Ricardo Villlobos says
I am going to take my therapy dog to many more of my sessions with clients and I am going to add address the amount of stress or trauma the mothers of my clients experienced during pregnancy. This may give me a clue to why a client is having trouble with emotional regulation, especially ones that have not experienced any major trauma after their birth. Thanks.
Hazel Da Silva says
Like Elaine Dolan, I also wanted to ask about the comment re: when a traumatized person may evoke a negative response from another person, it was stated that the other may be the “wrong person” (Law of Attraction). But even if the other person may be OK, something that the traumatized person says or does evokes a negative response.
So, how does the traumatized person know which one it is (wrong person or OK person)?
Also how does the traumatized person avoid feeling a sense of guilt,shame, blame (or a combo of all 3) in either scenario, if they are aware of this concept? What ways can they use to cope on a practical level, in attempts to socially engage with others? Otherwise, as stated, this becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. I know this from personal experience for myself & my son!!
e cheshier says
good question, i would like to know too. my most recent supposition is, well, pheromones. and if your biochemistry is messed up, your pheromones probably are too. any research on that?
George says
Hazel,
You might want to look up the Greyson Stein experiments from the 1980’s on victim selection. Everyone seems to have it backwards – it’s the perpetrator who can spot victims, not the victim who spots (or is attracted to) the abuser.
Greyson/Stein made a recording of people walking on a busy street corner, played it for convicted violent criminals in a federal penitentiary, and asked them to point out who would be the likeliest targets. They were surprised at the consistency and speed of selection. Dr. Angela Book also studied this: in her experiment subjects who were higher on a test of psychopathy traits were much better at spotting subjects who had previously been victimized.
B says
Good questions. Grey/Stein findings validate experiences. Difficulty remains for the “victim” to discern what constitutes safety, especially after a predator targets them and re-traumatizes them. Can make individuals even more vigilant and likely to withdraw/isolate from different types of social contact, and/or rigidify boundaries, perhaps even indefinitely and even to feel as if they are some form of a “magnet.” Looking forward to the next broadcast with the continued focus on tools. The added pieces on brain integration and clinical findings re mbsr results are useful.
Anneliese Knop says
I have a client, age 7, who has almost completely dissociated from reality. I am conseling in a school setting and have no contact with the parents. I was intrigued by the animal attachment/visualisation intervention mentioned in this week’s talk, but I am concerned about applying it to this client because he has given me mixed signals about his feelings toward animals. First he claims to love the family dog dearly, then said he had tried to strangle her at least once. Frankly, I am not even sure if he has a dog. Would you use an animal-based intervention with a client like this? thanks so much for your help!
swan swan says
How about trying a stuffed animal? Definately recommend screening before pairing client & animals as not all pairings will be appropriate…must be mindful of safety and stress on animal, too.
Josea says
Very good point around kindness potentially being triggering. Also maybe letting people “overshare” and expose themselves too much. I’m left with a few questions though…
Like what would be the alternative to being too kind 🙂 I guess offering clients as much choice as possible and creating safety in other ways? Slowing down people who are oversharing?
Also it would have been nice to hear a bit more orientation around solutions for working with clients who were exposed to high cortisol in the womb and may have brain differences because of this.
Sandra Figueroa-Sosa says
Thanks you all! The way I’m using these ideas is right in the theoretical chapter of my dissertation. I’ma working with so called Otomí shamans, “those who cure” in their native language, describing the complexity of the life of those who carry a gift. The transgenerational exploration of their families has shown a lot of trauma, the understanding of which has been capital for my comprehension of the cultural decisions of coping with violence and transgretion. For the moment, the text will serve as an initial interface to dialog in the community, where the fate of women keeps being very dificult. God bless you!
Natalie says
Sounds fascinating Sandra.
Karin Wentworth-Ping says
I am watching this to learn how to help my 13 yo son regulate his emotions (he was born overseas, abandoned, lived in an orphanage for 2 years) and for me to better regulate mine in the face of his rage/remorse/rage/remorse cycles. Boom! I tuned in maybe 20 mins into the webinar and felt that you were talking directly to me about him. I ave learned so much and also been reminded of so much. My takeaways are:
I have sometimes decided to ignore him when he’s raging. I will no longer ignore him as this reinforces his belief that I’m not thee when things are challenging. I will kindly explain how I feel and say I’m taking a break but I’m open to talking or getting on whenever he is.
I will not get angry and rage back, as I have sometimes recently when things have escalated which reinforces the belief ” no one can cope with me, I don’t need you, I can cope on my own”.
I am the Rock, the attachment figure that he can rail against.
Unfortunately our cats, who we got so that he could have loving attached pets, do not go to him because of his energy and loudness. It’s another reinforcement that he’s not loveable and I will reconsider getting him a dog.
Maximina Rivera says
My take away from this week’s session:
1. Kindness and being nice can be a trigger for the client. I am much more aware of this factor and will take this into consider when working with my students. In the past I have noticed a hesitation from students when I have approached them in this manner and now realize that it may have been a trigger.
2. Empowering the client by giving them choices is a way to create a secure attachment. I will continue to utilize this approach. Today’s lesson helped me to appreciate this technique and how it strengthens an individual sense of self-knowledge.
I look forward to the next session on Memory.
Mike Wallace says
My biggest take away is the importance of the client/therapist relationship. It makes me think more carefully about how to monitor my part in it’s development. From today’s seminar, for example, how a smiling face can replicate the initial abuser, allowing the client to choose where they sit and being aware of the client’s over divulging and feeling too vulnerable afterward.
Zonzurea Thomas says
This training is absolutely phenomenal! I have worked in the mental health field slightly over 12 years. I am very passionate about working with traumatized individuals. I plan to implement protocol to gather more detailed information about a client’s past. This will better help me to understand attachment that he or she has experienced, which will lead to a more tailored treatment of the traumatized child that still resides in the core of the individual. Lastly, I will share this information with supervisees to help them better succeed in treatment when delivering services to this population.
Kimberly Dawn Phillips says
Today’s class is so critical when you work with families. I wish I could watch it again.
Michelle Murphy says
Hi Kimberly,
Good news, you can watch again. We’ll be replaying this same session – Session Two – today, Thursday, October 18th, at 10am, 12pm, 3pm, and 10pm Eastern Time (USA).
Hope you can tune in again.
Michelle
NICABM Staff
Floralisa martinez says
Loving the information . I have read Dr kolks book . Wonderful ! I am not a provider. I work in health care. Seeing a therapist for trauma and memory block -most of my life . Seeing a therapist and going thrrough EDMR and I find it (as a health care person ) amazing. It has helped me tremendously . Unlocking memory . Traumatic memory . Painful memory . I have been given the books on trauma and sites to view and read to understand what is going on in my head clinically . And it has helped . Thank you for doing this series .
Gita Canaran says
Pat Ogden’s practical approaches are so impressive. We have a Traumatic Psychosis Community of Practce that is forcossuing on Attachment Disorders this year. Her body work for the separate parts of self are so useful for working with our traumatic psychosis patients. We are currently applying for an internal grant to help build capacity with our clinicians. We are planning on signing up for a Gold subscription, but it would be amazing if Pat Ogden would be willing to join us as an expert for one of our meetings, if we can get funding for this through an internal grant. I have had the pleasure of working with Ruth Lanius as well, and it would be lovely to have her for an expert’s session as well. I apologize for the typos, but this web page wouldn’t allow me to correct in the first line for some reason.
Pamela says
Thank you so much for offering this series free of charge. As a retired massage therapist shifting into a counseling practice, this is very exciting information. Listening is helping me to discern where in the counseling field I will fit in. It will be some kind of somatic therapy with a mindfulness component.