How to Work with Traumatic Memory That Is Embedded in the Nervous System
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with Peter Levine, PhD ;
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with Peter Levine, PhD; Pat Ogden, PhD; Bessel van der Kolk, MD; and Ruth Buczynski, PhD
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This webinar helped me to identify some of former students´ sudden urges to move sometimes in strange ways as possible flashbacks, as unconscious urges to complete an action. There is still a chance to see those families, so this helps me shape my future work. Also, during my second listening, I worked on more closely identifying the stages or functions of the Internal Family Systems with the material here. Thirdly, the details of the work on backpain by Peter Levine, the guiding questions, now are familiar to me, after the first time I was completely filled with compassion and absorbing the art of this healing work. I also still remember his example of a man wanting to fly away from concentration camp. Number four, the coining of particular phrases, the verbal and sensory richness of theory and examples really is remarkable. Number five, all presenters have an authentic presence and inner glory about them that is very dignified and gracious as their own life stories can be sensed with respect & gratitude. <3
Thank you, always good to be presented with such knowledge and experience that resonates. Where can UK practitioners with the relevant research background, skills and experience be found?
What I hear confirms what I have been practicing for years. I am now 74, in my university’s years, nobody would propose such kind of treatment. But I did my own therapy with Arnaud Desjardins and one of his followers. The technique was called “Lying”, and we proceeded just as you described. We knew that it was working wonderfully, for us first, for our patients after, without having the medical explanations. It’s nice to understand afterwards why it worked so well…
I am so happy to hear that now it’s considered a “normal” way to treat traumas or even bad memories not so traumatic yet troubling. I hope it will be taught to all future psy’ in the world !
Thank you.
Maybe using ACT approach when your work with a juvenile client doesn’t allow the ongoing ability to support them after they walk out the door and get triggered, or not have the option to take extended time to ground a client who may get hyper-aroused if you chose to have then explore the details of a traumatic experience not knowing the extent of what happened, but you want to help.
I’ve been hesitant about conciously working with people with a primary dx of trauma, cPTSD or PTSD. I am struck with the overlap in approach to working with people experiencing chronic pain (of which I have a lot of experience). I have implemented many of the techniques spoken about here espically those that emphasise the physiological aspects of the treatment/training. I think I’m about to expand my potential client base.
People experiencing chronic pain are suffering from C-PTSD. It’s the process of central sensitization that connects the two.
First of all, I wouild like to share that I am very gratefull for having the opportunity to learn via web from world experts. Now, I have plenty of notes/insights/techniques which I’m going to use in next days: grounding kit, mountain meditaion, focus on procedural body patterns.
Looking forward to the next videos!
Best regards,
Agnieszka
Is it possible to develop a schizophrenia from a preverbal trauma? Client does not recall any traumatic experience but would hear an angry, demanding voice in his/her head. The client has recognised a weird indescribable bodily feeling just before the voice would appear. Client’s dad is diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia and by court order was refused to come near the client since the client was 2 years old.
I am not a therapist but as a person who has had some 30 years of therapy on and off and now being isolated with COVID issues at age 66 – watching these free sessions helps me tremendously review my strategies for coping with flashbacks and dissociation. I have found that with prolonged chronic illness my PTSD has gotten worse and more pernicious. I imagine my physical weakness is exacerbating my feelings of vulnerability. So being able to watch these very capable therapists discuss these issues is so helpful. In isolation it is like a getting a lifevest. I am really considering buying the Gold Package for myself. Thank you.
Thank you so much for the opportunity to have this helpful information . While I do not practice psychotherapy I do practice helping people move to a better place in their lives. The support I give will be so much better informed by being a part of this. I have for some time now studied mindfulness and I have noticed how people present themselves to the world and to me . I notice so much more and have a better understanding through this material. My work is much richer by having this knowledge and actually seeing people improve and have hope Thank you once again for these wonderful sessions, they have given me more tools in my chest ( and in my heart )
Looking forward to the next part of these sessions
Many Blessings
Elaine
You have done it again! I don’t need the CE’s and I’m nearing retirement, but I just HAVE TO GET THIS SERIES.
Thanks to all of you for what you have and are pouring into me.
what I took away most is how memories are categorized beyond implicit and explicit. Also how harm and healing can look and feel like the same form.
I think you are all amazing so much knowledge.
I have started using body work in my practice thank you for the examples it helps me a lot.
I left the webinar knowing I could use what I have learned here to integrate into my sessions with clients. This training is essential, and i’m so glad that I got to be a part of it now. A big thank you to all who were involved in the training and making of these session.
Brilliant. Everything incredibly helpful. I only knew about memory as implicit and explicit but never knew how it showed in patients with trauma. The last differentiation of mindfulness practices as building safety vs. reconnecting was also very helpful for me as an educator.
I will share this with Mindfulness Meditation teaching and practices.
Please accept my heartfelt gratitude for your lifelong dedication to healing the World.
Sincerely, Veronica
wonderful session and insights… I could see myself go thru the blocks I was experiencing as a therapist with some of my clients and as the experts were navigating how to deal with it, I was able to identify the statements that I would make to get them to focus on… especially interesting were Pat Ogden’s insight of looking for patterns in thoughts/emotions… thank you very much for making it possible for me to attend and look forward to the other sessions. much love to all of you and stay safe
I hope to use what I am learning to assist our behaviorist staff deal with IDD clients experiencing trauma.
Wonderful info and presentation . thank you.
Great session. Thanks.
The emphasis on establishing safe environment was really interesting. I hadn’t thought about all the ways this can happen, but I tend to be intuitively good at it. It helps to have a more explicit understanding.
that was the best webinar i’ve ever seen. thank you!
Ruth does such a great job of keeping these sessions paced so that it’s easier to integrate the information. Thank you!
Thank you- thought provoking and very informational content! ~Kathy Presby
Does this approach help to retrieve transgenerational trauma? Can a person, a situation, a sight, a smell trigger a trauma an ancestor had?
The session gave me new insights into the process of stages in healing, and means of creating a supportive matrix of safety. It also inspired new ideas for me in using writing therapy and expressive arts therapies in the context of weaving this matrix somewhat like a spider web that can hold and metabolize traumatic memory for the nourishment of physical and soulful beingness. I appreciate very much the experience and shared knowledge of the participants. What a treasure to learn from them in the safety of my garden, literally, with morning coffee!
#1 Take-away: the past can live on in the present.
O, that we all develop, and use, our “Grounding kit.”
Thank you for revisiting important aspects of how to relate to Flashbacks and honing in on clients own natural resource system.
Also understanding how the four areas of a traumatised brain, is affected and how to bring the client back into the hear and Now!!.
Traumatic events throughout life. Most recently being re-traumatized by my former therapist conspiring with my ex-spouse’s divorce attorney bringing malicious prosecution, fabricated evidence, fraudulent Court Orders and Proceedings, discriminating under color of law. Effectively criminalizing caregiving to my (now adult) child in perpetuity, sabotaging his medical treatment for Epilepsy and Type I Diabetes.
This material is helpful.
Personally, not presently eligible for professional services under the State campaign of psychological terror.
Every bit of this is important to parents of kids with C-PTSD as well as clinicians.
BUT 24/7 parents do not have consultation with other clinicians nor do they have knowledge of or time to access this material. AND 1 hour a week clinicians who work with the most vulnerable of children ARE not adequately trained on this material and BLAME the parents. It’s utterly ridiculous.
What you say at the end about how it will help kids and families in the future and change the world is true – but it’s insufficient when data and interventions are available now. I’m wanting an institute like yours to change the trajectory for parents stuck in the NOW of 24/7 trauma chaos. Please expand and share. By speaking only to clinicians and of adults healing trauma, you are really limiting the potential of this fantastic material compilation.
How can you partner with child welfare agencies to make sure every single clinician has access to these interventions? And make it available, accessible and affordable to parents as well?
The earliest interventions will be the most successful and cause the least amount of suffering to all involved – and change the world faster.
Children suffering from C-PTSD, and their families need help NOW.
Thanks for sharing this webinar free. I’m a client and I’ve been encourage and thankfull for all the work that all of you give to make complex ptss negotiable. Super!
Again, thank you so much for engaging this extraordinary group of pioneering practitioners in a form of education that works to integrate their knowledge and experience for our benefit and for the world. I am a survivor of a severe case of Covid-19 and this pandemic is certainly traumatizing so many in numerous ways. I can use all of this material to help heal bodies/minds/spirits and relationships with loved ones.
Certainly the global community will need to heal at several levels!
Unfortunately I am unable to pay due to high medical and living bills myself but I will start paying fairly soon
The session today (part 3) has given me a step/permission to go deeper with clients. It has clarified the processing of trauma and the holistic view/map I use when guiding their healing journey safely. The depth will go into observing their procedural memory patterns and increasing their awareness to facilitate integration. I will be mindful of the types of memory and how the trauma response drives or affects memory types. Thank you from me and the survivors.
Helped me to understand the times that I have slowed down with a client and underpin with theory what sometimes has felt like flying by the seat of my pants.
Thank-you! I have gone through a number of NICABM series, but it seems there is always a piece that I have let go by the wayside as I focus on other methods and skills. It’s nice to have the opportunity to revisit these and pick up something that I did not in other series. I am in my 60’s, but so grateful to continue to be learning and bringing new hope and resource to the table with clients. (Amazing at what has been developed since I went to grad school in the late 80’s!😄❤️) These folks seem to be a never-ending well of stimulating and helpful content.
I would .like more information on how to work with a male client would was on the front line in Vietnam who returned with probably some reentry counseling never been able to talk about the horrors . i later in life he is a new relationship and does not want to share but partnrer wants to mow what to do
Any articles ?
I recognise so much, from supportive education work with groups and individuals, and also supporting family members who have broken down. Really clear. Thank you.
Thank you so much for these wonderful sessions.
I appreciate the piece on handling flashbacks. It seems that the person may need an outside coach, such as the therapist, to ask them to feel their arms on the chair, or produce a vial of perfume to help them settle down, create their own “grounding” kit.
But, my question is once a person is experiencing flashback, how will they be able to reach out for this grounding kit, if they are in the midst of a flashback, and cannot distinguish between past and present , and do not have an external person to bring them to the present and safety. How is the person able to remember to reach for the grounding kit if they are in the midst of the crises?
Thanks,
Shibani Ray-Mazumder, Sc.D, Ph.D
Director
NY/CA Wellness Psychology
I understand that the trauma is always present and that current thoughts and behaviors of the client can relate to the trauma’s effects. Second I understand that the participants stated that one doesn’t have to relive or retell the trauma story – but it does seem that the case histories presented involved some description of the trauma. Are you saying that the trauma can be described somewhat but it is not necessary to relive it as a full narrative? Also no research was cited to support this approach, whereas other approaches CPT etc. have much experimental research.
I loved that you talked about pre – verbal trauma. I’ve experienced a trauma when I was too two years old and always felt like something was broken inside me, but I didn’t understand what or even why. I’ve had a pretty normal and caring life. About five years ago, my mom told me about this traumatic experience in my early years and since then I could actually do some somatic work that helped me rewire my nervous system.
I thank you so much for this and the gold subscribers . I’ll give it some days to process all this info.
Thank you for tonight’s session. Blown away by the format, which was very succinct and easy to follow and narrowed in on the clinical uncertainties we all face as therapists. I particularly lived the 4 point strategy for supporting our clients to bring resources into the moment. I also loved the notion of mindful resourcing from your panel guest and how he explained mindful resourcing has 4 levels also and these lef me curious to hear and discover more about this. There were many take aways, but that particularly stayed with me and I loved the presentation. Thank you
Thank you for this no-cost to me master class. I am not a practitioner. I find what I learn helps explain what I went through during the stress/trauma of a lawsuit that drug out for seven years.
Seven years to get the homeowners association (HOA) to stop leaks that led to high levels of dangerous molds and displacement (after exposure) of adults and children and the loss of health, home, and life savings.
I am so grateful for the generous sharing of all the experts and concrete exemples that just by listening I got so excited to explore what has been said, to test, to play with and my thirst is just growing and growing to go more and more into the depth and being able to stay more and more with what is happening in the client and to be able to track on multiple levels reality. Humbled and grateful!
Wonderful series, thank you! Would also love to receive resources and supports or direction to resources/supports for treating trauma in children, or how to adapt some of the work/techniques offered here to the younger client population. Thank you!
Thank you. Terrific work! For starters, unlike most webinars, the integrity of your work is manifest in actually beginning on time. See the word getting out about the integration of functional neuroanatomy and brought neuropsychological understanding with the actual assessment and treatment of trauma represent huge advances in our work over the 4 decades I have been in practice. Again, thank you!
Thank you! It is very enlightening, especially about the effect on procedural memory. I am now aware of why certain postures are indicative of what’s going on with my clients
Thank you
Excellent information, leaves me wanting more.
I want to hear more about pre-verbal trauma. Even in-utero trauma and its implications.
I use a lot the mountain meditation and clients really like it. I combined it though with nature sound frequencies and relaxing odor essences.
Being a novice I am obtaining a better understanding of the mechanisum in which I have incorpated and who to adjust them to be more effective.
Webinar was comprehensive and holistic that touches on all aspects of trauma that created in our body and mind at subtle and self-conscious level, to shift from perception of self-loathe, shame, guilt, fear to living the real moment.
Thank You.
This was so empowering, this is my first series and I’m really loving it